Fear of topping

Iā€™m a bi guy and I consider myself vers.
I only started having sex with guys a few years ago and a couple of times after bottoming I was supposed to top but it wouldnā€™t work out, and I basically carried on that anxiety also in my sexual life with my female partner.

Iā€™m now at the point where I just masturbate or if we decided to have sex I bottom, for fear of not being able to stay hard.
Iā€™ve noticed that if the pressure is taken off me having to be hard, then I can have a solid erection but still havenā€™t tried topping in a while for fear of failure.

Has anyone else turned to bottoming as a response to this kind of anxiety? Is there a way back?

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Iā€™m a total bottom because of ED. The few times Iā€™ve successfully topped were thanks to Viagra. So, I understand your anxiety. Iā€™m on Mojo because I want to become versa. You might be interested in this article: https://www.advocate.com/love-and-sex/2021/8/31/switching-how-try-bottoming-if-youre-top-and-vice-versa#rebelltitem1

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@mysterious-crimson-snail

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Thank you so much for the article.
Iā€™m anxious sometimes cause people expect me to top them so itā€™s not something that happens organically. Weirdly enough when thereā€™re no such expectations then I have no problem with it.

Doing the course is making me feel much more confident already.

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@mysterious-crimson-snail youā€™re welcome. I enjoy bottoming, but Iā€™d like to be able to top too. It seems like Iā€™m making progress with this app. I have a sex friend with ED whoā€™s a top and because anal penetration isnā€™t always an option, we do other non-penetrative stuff. Thereā€™s less pressure and we manage to have a good time. Have you tried using cockrings or other aids to get/stay hard?

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I donā€™t hate bottoming, but it really doesnā€™t do anything for me. Iā€™m one of those weird guys who doesnā€™t seem to be able to achieve that glorious P-orgasm everyone raves about.

So as a top, Iā€™m quite frustrated. Iā€™ve ā€œturned to bottoming,ā€ but most of the guys Iā€™ve tried to hook up with are really expecting to be topped.

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Yeah but it seems to be very much person-dependant :joy:
I havenā€™t really tried topping a guy of late but with my female partner things are definitely on the up

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The main issue for me is this kind of expectation: having to fulfil someoneā€™s wish list. I wish people invested more into going with the flow and just letting whatever happens happen. I usually perform much, much better when I set the lowest kind of expectations but then things go a different way.

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I think a good part of my problem is a lack of nuance when it comes to sex. Setting the ā€œlowest kind of expectationsā€ for me, at worst, means setting myself up for failure; at best, it means planning to go bowling instead. :laughing:

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I think it depends on how you meet the guy. If itā€™s in person, like at cruising spot, thereā€™s a lot of room for spontaneity.

If itā€™s online, thereā€™s usually an entire text conversation about likes/dislikes (with pics) before the hook-up. On the one hand, you know what heā€™s into and how to pleasure him. But on the other hand, it may feel mechanical once youā€™re actually having sex.

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Absolutely! I think likes and boundaries are a nicer way to negotiate the sexual space rather than setting up expectations. And I understand that some things need planning, but I feel that if itā€™s not organic then as you said it feels mechanical and kind of like fulfilling contractual obligations

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Yeah Iā€™ve been in a similar situation for years until recently. I used to be primary a top but a combo of dealing with my bottom shame, and meeting the right guy got me exploring the other side and now I enjoy both. However, my inability to get and stay hard caused so much anxiety that I rarely topped.

Post pandemic Iā€™ve resumed dating and hooking up (single here) and have been working toward topping more. So far the guys Iā€™ve topped have been understanding and patient. Iā€™ve just told them I am a bit nervous, in part, because I usually need more of an emotional connection and because theyā€™re fucking hot. That helped to up the intimacy and took the pressure off.

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I know exactly what you mean. When I first began my sexual journey at 23, I was able to get hard, stay hard, and top or bottom without issue. Now I am 30 and I can still get and maintain an erection while bottoming, but when I try to top I lose it. Iā€™m in a long term relationship with a guy who doesnā€™t bottom much and hasnā€™t, but is open to it. Me, being verse, want to express my love both ways when penetrating.

I try to think back to when it started for me and it has to be a string of guys who left after having sex with me. Like a checklist. Maybe I am afraid that he will leave me after? I donā€™t know, I hope Mojo is able to help me maintain while topping.

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I am verse and would like to top more. But with ED, I tend to bottom more. Like some of you, I get hard while bottoming but as soon as I top, I lose it. It happens when I switch positions or topping after bottoming, it goes away. I do get that inner critic where I already expect to get soft in certain positions, or after giving myself a rest if I dont want to cum too soon. Sometimes I get too self conscious when the bottom is sexier / taller / bigger, etc. Iā€™ve turned to using Viagra but it makes me flushed and stuffy and my partner thinks I have a cold or something. It is frustrating and hopefully Mojo could help me fix these issues.

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Totally get this. Iā€™m 34 now and have had ED issues for a few yearsā€¦only recently found Mojo and itā€™s great to see others in the came boat! I love the idea of topping and have had great experiences in the past as a top. Now Iā€™m in a long term relationship and everytime I go to top I go soft. Then my inter critic comes along and the anxiety kicks in. Now even before topping, the thought that foreplay might lead to sex and that I need to be hard to top makes me soft! Which obvs kills the mood!

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I was a top for the last 12 years of a relationship - that has now ended. Most of the time I never had any issues staying hard. But over the last 2 years Iā€™ve had to totally abandon topping (unless using Viagra - but even then ā€¦) and only bottom now because I have such performance anxiety. I often canā€™t get properly hard even when bottoming - as Iā€™m so anxious that Iā€™ll just go soft. Itā€™s a really viscous circle that I just canā€™t seem to break out of. I really miss being a top. Hoping Mojo will help me stop this spiral of anxiety.

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Im glad this is a topic. I started off as a bottom but originally wanted to top and switched because of my first sexual experience. Then just stuck with it because i associated bottoming with emotional connection i wasnt getting anywhere else. I want to top and when i can get hard i enjoy it. But i have only been able to cum from any penatrativr sex either top or bottoming a handful of times in the last 10yrs because i get in my head and lose my erection and just have spiraled since my last relationship 9 yrs ago. So now im a side but would like to do all the things when i want to without the baggage and inability to get hard.

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Totally same here! At least weā€™re not alone!!

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Thanks for the reply buddy. Iā€™ve only been using Mojo a few days, but it feels like taking that step (trying to find help) is already giving me a bit of a confidence boost.

I hope things work out for you & that youā€™ll be back topping before you know it.

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In so thankful for these insightful comments. I donā€™t actually know what I am in terms of top/bottm/vers/side, as it all depends of the energy between myself and a guy. Its hard to know which way its meant to go. I do know that when it comes too topping Iā€™ve slowly lost my way, and rarely if ever can I get past my own blocks in my head to enjoy this. I was also fully vers with my ex fiancĆ©, but that was a particular emotionally abusive relationship that I still dont think Iā€™ve come back from in terms of healing (its been almost a decade now). My last relationship (6.5 years ago) he was a total top, so I bottomed a lotā€¦ and although I enjoyed it for the most part, he just wasnā€™t interested in my dick, so it felt like an unwanted guest in the bedroom. And I just kinda gave up on it too. Its taken me a long while to reclaim a sense of confidence again. Does this resonate with anyone?

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